myca
Apr 5, 02:42 PM
Much of it is the automatic association that "jailbreak = pirated apps" which for many of us is not the case. I have spent $52 on apps in the last 3 weeks of having iPad... they're making a killing off me. Even with all of the apps I have, I can't stand looking at the device's home screen with an inch of space between each app, and it drives me nuts that I am limited to how many icons i can put in each folder. IF I can't jailbreak this thing in the next week, it's going back to the store, and I'll buy the Xoom. It solves all the issues. Would rather stay with Apple because the hardware is so much better than android, but I have to be realistic, software is what makes any device (hence why I like my Mac so much)
I tip my hat to you that you still buy your software when Jailbroken phones can easily use pirated software.
This is one of the reasons that Apple (and the console manufacturers to name a few) are so careful with creating these closed systems. It's been pretty much statistically proven with the PSP that the ease of hacking the device made software sales suffer dramatically: a 2.95 tie ratio, compared to the DS 4.5 ratio which itself has been plagued by piracy. Whereas the wii, 360 and PS3 all have a tie ratio of over 7. So it's understandable that when a company relies on revenues from software through things like the app store, or licensing fees in the case of the console makers, they want a closed system that they can control to avoid the problems sony had with the PSP.
The more Apple go down the road as selling their ios devices as media/gaming consumption devices the more they will want a solid closed system. Which I'm fine with, as my iPhone is a phone, with a few apps on it and it plays my music, if apple ever tried this on their actual computer OS I'd have to brush up on my Windows skills pretty darn quickly.
Of note the PSP has sold over 60 million but is still deemed a failure, in part due the terrible tie ratio.
I tip my hat to you that you still buy your software when Jailbroken phones can easily use pirated software.
This is one of the reasons that Apple (and the console manufacturers to name a few) are so careful with creating these closed systems. It's been pretty much statistically proven with the PSP that the ease of hacking the device made software sales suffer dramatically: a 2.95 tie ratio, compared to the DS 4.5 ratio which itself has been plagued by piracy. Whereas the wii, 360 and PS3 all have a tie ratio of over 7. So it's understandable that when a company relies on revenues from software through things like the app store, or licensing fees in the case of the console makers, they want a closed system that they can control to avoid the problems sony had with the PSP.
The more Apple go down the road as selling their ios devices as media/gaming consumption devices the more they will want a solid closed system. Which I'm fine with, as my iPhone is a phone, with a few apps on it and it plays my music, if apple ever tried this on their actual computer OS I'd have to brush up on my Windows skills pretty darn quickly.
Of note the PSP has sold over 60 million but is still deemed a failure, in part due the terrible tie ratio.
TennisandMusic
Apr 18, 03:24 PM
Have you looked at the TouchWiz UI? It's almost identical to iOS - dock at the bottom, pages of icons in a grid and you even remove applications in the same way as you do on the iPhone. I've nothing at all against competition for iOS, but they shouldn't just rip the design off
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Galaxy-S-24-375x500.jpg
Yeah that looks similar, I was referring to the tablet/honeycomb.
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Galaxy-S-24-375x500.jpg
Yeah that looks similar, I was referring to the tablet/honeycomb.
roland.g
May 4, 02:52 PM
I would get a new iMac now if I knew that Lion would run SL pricing at $29. Otherwise I will wait for a preload. But obviously pricing and a release date won't be forthcoming prior to WWDC at the earliest. Guess we will know more in about 5 weeks.
rockthecasbah
Aug 2, 04:10 PM
i am happy that iPods "aren't expected" at WWDC, it doesn't seem the right place. We need emphasis on computers and software for them, not redesigned (or just updated) music players. xServe, Mac Pros, and hopefully redesigned exteriors of MacBook Pros, as well as lots of Leopard showing is what i hope for :)
odedia
Apr 23, 07:26 PM
Seeing as how the iPad 2 didn't get retina display, I doubt iMacs will.
Imagine the cost of that!!
The GPU in the iPad 2 is powerful, but let's not go crazy here, it can't drive an x2 display and still get the same framerates. Heck, even on a PS3 most games don't really run at full 1080p because the graphics chip can't handle all the pixels.
On a mac though, it is different. The GPU is more than capable.
Imagine the cost of that!!
The GPU in the iPad 2 is powerful, but let's not go crazy here, it can't drive an x2 display and still get the same framerates. Heck, even on a PS3 most games don't really run at full 1080p because the graphics chip can't handle all the pixels.
On a mac though, it is different. The GPU is more than capable.
D4F
Apr 26, 02:24 PM
As much as I want to see Apple sell phones, I also like to see healthy competition to keep away anti-trust issues. Apple is for people who like quality high-end stuff and Android is for Kmart shoppers ;)
Considering you take a shot at economics and try look mature/pro/high-en, it's funny you have a forum signature with your apple gear and best app. Do you realize how retarded and insecure are you just for trying to look cool with a sig like that?
And what's wrong with K-mart shoppers in the first place? ****ing racist.
Considering you take a shot at economics and try look mature/pro/high-en, it's funny you have a forum signature with your apple gear and best app. Do you realize how retarded and insecure are you just for trying to look cool with a sig like that?
And what's wrong with K-mart shoppers in the first place? ****ing racist.
Jape
Nov 14, 09:27 AM
These are full sized, so you might want to download them.
http://www.uvm.edu/~tstreete/temp/landscape.JPG
http://www.uvm.edu/~tstreete/temp/portrait.JPG
http://www.uvm.edu/~tstreete/temp/rear.JPG
What type of clips are those? And where did u get them?
http://www.uvm.edu/~tstreete/temp/landscape.JPG
http://www.uvm.edu/~tstreete/temp/portrait.JPG
http://www.uvm.edu/~tstreete/temp/rear.JPG
What type of clips are those? And where did u get them?
BlizzardBomb
Jul 22, 03:10 PM
I would really like to see Apple have a laptop cheaper than $1,100, and I think there would be a definite market for the, especially for teenagers looking into getting a Mac. I know that's unlikely, but...
Anyways I hope that the MBPs get the processor update (and a new enclosure) very soon and I really hope the MBs and Mac Minis follow soon after.
I don't get any reason for Apple not too, and I think with Intel it would be possible for Apple to get some cheaper computers out there. It would be nice, but seems unlikely.... *sighs*
Agreed. A light, small, cheap Apple laptop targeted at students would be excellent, and an education iMac that's available to the public would be great too. Unlikely, but I'm with you on this one.
In other news, I expect the iMac to stay with an X1600 series card (because Apple have historically used the mid-range cards: 9600, X600, X1600 and possibly the rumored X2600s next year) so maybe an X1600 Pro and/or an XT. I also think that they should update the MacBook Pros graphics card because its a Pro laptop with a mid-range card so a Mobility X1800 would be nice.
Anyways I hope that the MBPs get the processor update (and a new enclosure) very soon and I really hope the MBs and Mac Minis follow soon after.
I don't get any reason for Apple not too, and I think with Intel it would be possible for Apple to get some cheaper computers out there. It would be nice, but seems unlikely.... *sighs*
Agreed. A light, small, cheap Apple laptop targeted at students would be excellent, and an education iMac that's available to the public would be great too. Unlikely, but I'm with you on this one.
In other news, I expect the iMac to stay with an X1600 series card (because Apple have historically used the mid-range cards: 9600, X600, X1600 and possibly the rumored X2600s next year) so maybe an X1600 Pro and/or an XT. I also think that they should update the MacBook Pros graphics card because its a Pro laptop with a mid-range card so a Mobility X1800 would be nice.
bassfingers
Mar 30, 01:59 AM
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Thousands of people are dying in Japan and all you idiots care about is iPod Touch batteries? That's kind of... selfish.
Geez thousands of people displaced, and you're still using your own computer? Oh wait, do you or do you not want the world to stop turning?
Thousands of people are dying in Japan and all you idiots care about is iPod Touch batteries? That's kind of... selfish.
Geez thousands of people displaced, and you're still using your own computer? Oh wait, do you or do you not want the world to stop turning?
bigmc6000
Aug 7, 07:11 PM
FB Dimms ECC are really expensive.
Anyone knows where to get them cheaper?
I plan to use 4 gig FBdimm 4x1024
and 4 750 gig disks.
Then Bittorrent wont be slow!
Newegg has 512's for about 100 and 1GB chips for $200. Way cheaper than apple's upgrades. And they are retial crucial chips...
Hope that helps. Also, I don't know about the 750GB HD's - apple only offers 500GB drives - there may be a reason for that...
Anyone knows where to get them cheaper?
I plan to use 4 gig FBdimm 4x1024
and 4 750 gig disks.
Then Bittorrent wont be slow!
Newegg has 512's for about 100 and 1GB chips for $200. Way cheaper than apple's upgrades. And they are retial crucial chips...
Hope that helps. Also, I don't know about the 750GB HD's - apple only offers 500GB drives - there may be a reason for that...
ProwlingTiger
Apr 7, 12:16 PM
+1 for Apple
Anyone saying they are a monopoly or anti-competitive should actually learn what those terms actually mean before throwing them around.
Haters gonna hate.
Anyone saying they are a monopoly or anti-competitive should actually learn what those terms actually mean before throwing them around.
Haters gonna hate.
ticman
Dec 4, 07:30 PM
I have 3 apple stores in my state. One about 25 miles and the others at the opposite end of the state. None have the car kit in stock and suggested ordering online. Last time i checked it was a 2 to 3 week delivery time. Now it appears from above post that 7 to 10 days may be new ETA.
I am thinking of giving BLT another week and then biting the bullet and ordering from Apple.com
Thoughts????
BTW 30% off of something you not receive suddenly doesn't look like such a bargain.
I am thinking of giving BLT another week and then biting the bullet and ordering from Apple.com
Thoughts????
BTW 30% off of something you not receive suddenly doesn't look like such a bargain.
ramzhh
Apr 10, 01:09 PM
For god's sake, this is still alive? Look, there is more than one possibility. Now no one should care. Mystery solved. Now get to actual work.
Dunno why this was posted in the first place...
Dunno why this was posted in the first place...
lifeofart
Aug 4, 02:03 PM
I think we will probably get an announcement about new designed MacBookPros at WWDC along with MacPro Desktops.
Rumor had it back in January that Apple wanted Intel to pre-release Merom chips to Apple for the MacBook Pro. Instead Apple was forced to rush to market a quick update to the PowerBook line using the Yonah processor.
My guess now is that Apple is going to finally get to roll out the new redsigned MacBook Pro for Merom.
I agree completely. The MacBook Pro just looks like a transition model to me. Apple needed to update the PB badly and it made no sense for them to update with a new PPC chip but the Merom chip wasn't available yet even though it was Apple's chip of choice for a new laptop design.
Voila! slap a Yonah in essentially the same enclosure as a PB, tweak it a bit with new features and you get a MacBook Pro. Now that Merom is here and Apple has re-designed the ibook, the MacBook Pro is poised for a complete re-design.
I want my re-designed Merom MacBook Pro at WWDC.:eek:
Rumor had it back in January that Apple wanted Intel to pre-release Merom chips to Apple for the MacBook Pro. Instead Apple was forced to rush to market a quick update to the PowerBook line using the Yonah processor.
My guess now is that Apple is going to finally get to roll out the new redsigned MacBook Pro for Merom.
I agree completely. The MacBook Pro just looks like a transition model to me. Apple needed to update the PB badly and it made no sense for them to update with a new PPC chip but the Merom chip wasn't available yet even though it was Apple's chip of choice for a new laptop design.
Voila! slap a Yonah in essentially the same enclosure as a PB, tweak it a bit with new features and you get a MacBook Pro. Now that Merom is here and Apple has re-designed the ibook, the MacBook Pro is poised for a complete re-design.
I want my re-designed Merom MacBook Pro at WWDC.:eek:
Thunderbird
Apr 23, 04:30 PM
Seeing as how the iPad 2 didn't get retina display, I doubt iMacs will.
Imagine the cost of that!!
Imagine the cost of that!!
eawmp1
Apr 10, 09:24 AM
While the rules defined give the correct answer, when there is this much debate I'll argue the representation of the problem is ambiguous.
wschutz
Mar 30, 07:54 PM
I don't throw the word "troll" around much (it's overused) but stop trolling.
-Do we know the price?
-Have you heard any credible information that the Macs will EVER only use the App Store?
-how is Lion "nothing" - it unifies the window/Space/Dashboard viewing systems, it rethinks the entire process of file saving and revision, it adds tons of useful multitouch gestures, it implements new ways of downloading/sorting/viewing/launching apps, it adds new methods of wireless file sharing and adds security features.
Tell me, what aspect of personal computing in OS X should be improved, and how would you do it
I guess you didn't get my ironic and sarcastic satire... sorry for that... next time I'll be more straight forward so I don't offend anyone ;)
For what is worth... no we don't know the price, but it was a guess (good one in my opinion... though given Apple's latest trends I don't think I'm wrong at all).
I haven't heard any credible information because the only credible information comes from Apple's PR, and its statements. However, as a human being with a brain and a logical reasoning ability, I was inferring the available information and the latest Apple's moves, and that is my conclusion. Apple is not focused on that customer base which made it what it is today, and its main focus is AppStore, iTunes, and subscriptions... and the best way to achieve is by continuing the process started with iOS... aka... locking down every single device sold; whether that implies losing customers or not, but the profit will continue increasing, I have no doubt of that.
Lion is nothing, that's correct (in my humble opinion). Unifying those systems is an update, it is no near to being a feature because it is nothing new, neither it implies a major change, the underlying functionality remains (and it's even said that it's making the usability of the reunification of these different features in one place worse). Multitouch gestures are an extra which do not deserve more than an update of the OS...
The new ways for app launching, etc... are just a derived need from the medium-term feature (related to that locking down the OS). If you pretend selling the idea that because an application is now backgrounded, and the state is restored next time... is an innovation, then I think someone is omitting what many applications are doing nowadays... though they take different approaches (usually only saving windows position/size, and some other related preferences, though sometimes they even open the file you were editing!). Wireless file sharing is certainly cool... I thought rsync was just useless ;) or if you don't mind... Dropbox and alike seem to be doing a bad job...
Let's face, OS X is built on top of UNIX, it's just an UI and a set of wizards and aiding tools. Which is ok, I'm not saying otherwise, but nowadays there aren't enough new features to show within the timeframe the market demands an update; and that's the reason for Apple to deliver Lion, because the market is asking for it, but they have nothing, and that's why they are marketing the iOS features into Mac OS X, and some other things (which are just make up of old things, good anyways).
Given that Apple sold over 4 million Macs last quarter, that must equate to around $7 billion in revenue. Macs still make up around a quarter of Apples revenue, so while iPhones might be where the most money is coming in, Apple can't ignore $7 billion per quarter...
That's why they are, little by little, switching into the iOS experience... I'm quite inclined towards Lion being the last OS X version where the user will still be able to install applications on its own. The next one... I'm afraid... will be fully AppStore oriented... and that's when we will see the first jailbroken computers in history :D
-Do we know the price?
-Have you heard any credible information that the Macs will EVER only use the App Store?
-how is Lion "nothing" - it unifies the window/Space/Dashboard viewing systems, it rethinks the entire process of file saving and revision, it adds tons of useful multitouch gestures, it implements new ways of downloading/sorting/viewing/launching apps, it adds new methods of wireless file sharing and adds security features.
Tell me, what aspect of personal computing in OS X should be improved, and how would you do it
I guess you didn't get my ironic and sarcastic satire... sorry for that... next time I'll be more straight forward so I don't offend anyone ;)
For what is worth... no we don't know the price, but it was a guess (good one in my opinion... though given Apple's latest trends I don't think I'm wrong at all).
I haven't heard any credible information because the only credible information comes from Apple's PR, and its statements. However, as a human being with a brain and a logical reasoning ability, I was inferring the available information and the latest Apple's moves, and that is my conclusion. Apple is not focused on that customer base which made it what it is today, and its main focus is AppStore, iTunes, and subscriptions... and the best way to achieve is by continuing the process started with iOS... aka... locking down every single device sold; whether that implies losing customers or not, but the profit will continue increasing, I have no doubt of that.
Lion is nothing, that's correct (in my humble opinion). Unifying those systems is an update, it is no near to being a feature because it is nothing new, neither it implies a major change, the underlying functionality remains (and it's even said that it's making the usability of the reunification of these different features in one place worse). Multitouch gestures are an extra which do not deserve more than an update of the OS...
The new ways for app launching, etc... are just a derived need from the medium-term feature (related to that locking down the OS). If you pretend selling the idea that because an application is now backgrounded, and the state is restored next time... is an innovation, then I think someone is omitting what many applications are doing nowadays... though they take different approaches (usually only saving windows position/size, and some other related preferences, though sometimes they even open the file you were editing!). Wireless file sharing is certainly cool... I thought rsync was just useless ;) or if you don't mind... Dropbox and alike seem to be doing a bad job...
Let's face, OS X is built on top of UNIX, it's just an UI and a set of wizards and aiding tools. Which is ok, I'm not saying otherwise, but nowadays there aren't enough new features to show within the timeframe the market demands an update; and that's the reason for Apple to deliver Lion, because the market is asking for it, but they have nothing, and that's why they are marketing the iOS features into Mac OS X, and some other things (which are just make up of old things, good anyways).
Given that Apple sold over 4 million Macs last quarter, that must equate to around $7 billion in revenue. Macs still make up around a quarter of Apples revenue, so while iPhones might be where the most money is coming in, Apple can't ignore $7 billion per quarter...
That's why they are, little by little, switching into the iOS experience... I'm quite inclined towards Lion being the last OS X version where the user will still be able to install applications on its own. The next one... I'm afraid... will be fully AppStore oriented... and that's when we will see the first jailbroken computers in history :D
muffinss
May 4, 05:44 PM
Wow, what a great job to completely and unfairly judge people.
I consider myself OCD level organized. One of the reasons why I am so organized (more so than ever now) is because much of my media and software have transitioned to digital.
You have a very negative spin on Apple's approach. Instead of "dumbing down", I'll call it "simplifying", and I absolutely welcome the change.
I to have OCD, but I also realize that's its not hard providing an option for people to burn a copy of their digital download to a cd or disk. So far, as we know, they wont be allowing that.
It doesn't make things harder, complicated or confusing providing such an option.
I consider myself OCD level organized. One of the reasons why I am so organized (more so than ever now) is because much of my media and software have transitioned to digital.
You have a very negative spin on Apple's approach. Instead of "dumbing down", I'll call it "simplifying", and I absolutely welcome the change.
I to have OCD, but I also realize that's its not hard providing an option for people to burn a copy of their digital download to a cd or disk. So far, as we know, they wont be allowing that.
It doesn't make things harder, complicated or confusing providing such an option.
triceretops
Apr 25, 10:12 AM
That has to be pretty boring data from my phone. Home - Office - Home - Office - Home - Office - Gas Station - Home (repeat as necessary).:(
Sweetfeld28
Dec 5, 12:14 AM
i think this would make a good revision of the newly rumored 12" MacBook Pro.
darrens
Aug 4, 07:47 AM
I might be excited about this if the chips would run Adobe and Macromedia programs.
Isn't that what Rosetta is for :p :D
Hardly Apple's fault. Apple has managed to transition all it's apps - Adobe is certainly dragging their collective feet.
Isn't that what Rosetta is for :p :D
Hardly Apple's fault. Apple has managed to transition all it's apps - Adobe is certainly dragging their collective feet.
*LTD*
Apr 25, 09:36 AM
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So Steve was right. Apple doesn't actually track anyone.
So Steve was right. Apple doesn't actually track anyone.
jibjab kalonji
Aug 12, 02:53 AM
i don't think so. i'm sure apple put some sticky stuff on the processor and the motherboard so that it'll stay there basically forever.
miketcool
Nov 22, 01:50 AM
Did Apple say the same thing when someone challenged their Newton?
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