mdriftmeyer
Apr 24, 12:13 AM
3200x2000 requires 6,400,000 pixels. At 32 bit per pixel, we're talking 25,600,000 bytes of data. Considering modern framebuffers are double buffered, this requires 51,200,000 bytes of memory to hold. That fits into 48.82 MB of RAM. GPUs have had that much since ... hum... 2004 ? So we're good on framebuffer RAM.
Now, bandwidth. In order to refresh the screen 60 times, we need to push out those 25,600,000 pixels. That's going to require 11718 Mbps of bandwidth. Let's see... Display port 1.1a has 10.8 Gbps so it's a no go (though it could almost do it). If only there was a DP 1.2 spec that had a 21.6 Gbps cap... Oh wait there is. :D
So we're good on RAM and bandwidth. Now, what ATI family introduces DP 1.2 so that we can use this new standard ? Oh right, the Radeon HD 6000 series, AMD's current shipping tech! Now if only Apple would release some kind of support for these GPUs, like they did back in 10.6.7 ;) :
http://appleheadlines.com/2011/03/24/10-6-7-update-brings-native-graphic-acceleration-for-amd-5000-and-6000-series-video-cards/
So let's see if I got all of this right. We're good on RAM (have been for quite a few years). We're good on bandwidth for 60 hz 3200x2000 resolution. We're good on hardware (AMD 6000 series) and we're good on OS X support (with 10.6.7).
What exactly is missing here ? Oh right, a hardware refresh with said hardware included, which is probably a formality seeing all of these news and facts :cool:
Stop with the well-thought out accountability of resources. People would rather wallow in conjecture about the future w/o bothering to research the present.
Now, bandwidth. In order to refresh the screen 60 times, we need to push out those 25,600,000 pixels. That's going to require 11718 Mbps of bandwidth. Let's see... Display port 1.1a has 10.8 Gbps so it's a no go (though it could almost do it). If only there was a DP 1.2 spec that had a 21.6 Gbps cap... Oh wait there is. :D
So we're good on RAM and bandwidth. Now, what ATI family introduces DP 1.2 so that we can use this new standard ? Oh right, the Radeon HD 6000 series, AMD's current shipping tech! Now if only Apple would release some kind of support for these GPUs, like they did back in 10.6.7 ;) :
http://appleheadlines.com/2011/03/24/10-6-7-update-brings-native-graphic-acceleration-for-amd-5000-and-6000-series-video-cards/
So let's see if I got all of this right. We're good on RAM (have been for quite a few years). We're good on bandwidth for 60 hz 3200x2000 resolution. We're good on hardware (AMD 6000 series) and we're good on OS X support (with 10.6.7).
What exactly is missing here ? Oh right, a hardware refresh with said hardware included, which is probably a formality seeing all of these news and facts :cool:
Stop with the well-thought out accountability of resources. People would rather wallow in conjecture about the future w/o bothering to research the present.
ECUpirate44
Apr 10, 06:21 PM
So he is the man. Does he do your taxes?:D
Nope, but considering the level of math it takes to do taxes, he could :D. Should I ask him if he would do yours for you?
Nope, but considering the level of math it takes to do taxes, he could :D. Should I ask him if he would do yours for you?
Apple OC
May 2, 07:59 PM
a lb. of butter is still called a lb. of butter here in Canada
Jeevs bost
Jul 31, 06:30 AM
Yeah, agreed, but I'm just saying that there's no truth in the "photographer" crap. This is totally false.
Piggie
Apr 23, 06:49 PM
Piggie, you're my favourite!
You were quite concerned about how far behind Tegra 2 the iPad 2's specs were going to be and then when the tables turn in Apple's favour for specs it's, "but why, who needs this?"
Are you trying to say that having a higher resolution wouldn't be beneficial? Especially in light of your comment about the iPad's resolution.
Note: what "I" want, and what I think Apple's targeted consumer group want are to entirely different things.
Myself, I see a computer as a box of bits. I really don't care what the "box" looks like, it's just a box, it's what's on screen that matters to me.
I would NEVER EVER compromise what a computer can do to make it fit inside a pretty box, which is why I can never like an iMac as it's just fundamentally a bad design, cramming a lot inside a tight hot case just to make it look pretty.
I don't care who makes a product, and I have no brand loyalty at all.
I will go for the best I think I can find/afford at time of purchase based upon the criteria that matter to me.
Case thinness, material it's made from, colour, etc are all way down on my list of importance.
But then, Apple don't generally make anything for me due to this.
The current iPad2 being the exception as, at the moment I'm more than happy to admit that despite the bad lockdowns Apple has applied to the iPad, it's technically the best tablet at the moment.
I will draw back that statement a little as it can't read memory cards and lacks output ports and is lumbered with iTunes, but putting those negatives to one side, it's positives in speed and quality outweigh those points at the moment.
You were quite concerned about how far behind Tegra 2 the iPad 2's specs were going to be and then when the tables turn in Apple's favour for specs it's, "but why, who needs this?"
Are you trying to say that having a higher resolution wouldn't be beneficial? Especially in light of your comment about the iPad's resolution.
Note: what "I" want, and what I think Apple's targeted consumer group want are to entirely different things.
Myself, I see a computer as a box of bits. I really don't care what the "box" looks like, it's just a box, it's what's on screen that matters to me.
I would NEVER EVER compromise what a computer can do to make it fit inside a pretty box, which is why I can never like an iMac as it's just fundamentally a bad design, cramming a lot inside a tight hot case just to make it look pretty.
I don't care who makes a product, and I have no brand loyalty at all.
I will go for the best I think I can find/afford at time of purchase based upon the criteria that matter to me.
Case thinness, material it's made from, colour, etc are all way down on my list of importance.
But then, Apple don't generally make anything for me due to this.
The current iPad2 being the exception as, at the moment I'm more than happy to admit that despite the bad lockdowns Apple has applied to the iPad, it's technically the best tablet at the moment.
I will draw back that statement a little as it can't read memory cards and lacks output ports and is lumbered with iTunes, but putting those negatives to one side, it's positives in speed and quality outweigh those points at the moment.
syklee26
Sep 15, 06:20 PM
I love my wife's macbook keyboard. It is much more comfortable to use, doesn't mark up the LCD display, has much better feedback, and the keys don't pop off inadvertently like my flimsey PowerBook keys.
I want to see a complete redesign of the MacBook Pro. New case, new keyboard, magnetic latch, easy swap HDD & memory access. I don't think it will happen at the Aperature event but I am hoping for a redesign at MWSF2007.
I expect if there is a change on the 25th, it will be merom update only.
i don't understand why people are so desperate for new designs in aluminum MBPs. this is as good as it gets. do you see any commercial or TV shows showing laptops other than Apple ones? you have to wonder why that's the case.....it's because this is the best design in the market.
i can see your point about keyboard but not others such as HDD and memory access....plus, memory is not that difficult to access anyway.
I do think new MBPs will see some nice upgrades in battery life....right now my 15 inch MBPs hit about 3:30 in normal use with brightness level all the way up. maybe new MBPs will have average 4 hours battery life.
I want to see a complete redesign of the MacBook Pro. New case, new keyboard, magnetic latch, easy swap HDD & memory access. I don't think it will happen at the Aperature event but I am hoping for a redesign at MWSF2007.
I expect if there is a change on the 25th, it will be merom update only.
i don't understand why people are so desperate for new designs in aluminum MBPs. this is as good as it gets. do you see any commercial or TV shows showing laptops other than Apple ones? you have to wonder why that's the case.....it's because this is the best design in the market.
i can see your point about keyboard but not others such as HDD and memory access....plus, memory is not that difficult to access anyway.
I do think new MBPs will see some nice upgrades in battery life....right now my 15 inch MBPs hit about 3:30 in normal use with brightness level all the way up. maybe new MBPs will have average 4 hours battery life.
vampyren
Nov 14, 02:39 PM
It's already available http://www.eset.com/home/cybersecurity-for-mac
Cool, thanks for the info, i didnt know about this product. Although reading the feature list it sounds more like a internet security and windows virus detector then a mac AV. But maybe i'm wrong.
Anyone who has tested it and is willing to share the experience?
(maybe i take a snapshot of my OSX and give the demo a try, dont want to risk it :) )
Cool, thanks for the info, i didnt know about this product. Although reading the feature list it sounds more like a internet security and windows virus detector then a mac AV. But maybe i'm wrong.
Anyone who has tested it and is willing to share the experience?
(maybe i take a snapshot of my OSX and give the demo a try, dont want to risk it :) )
Lopes
Mar 26, 10:09 PM
My thoughts exactly. Our school district (ISD 482) just bought 1,465 iPads for its students, and I can see us getting really mad if Apple were to release a new iPad 6 mos. later.
Jesus, it's not like the iPads you bought suddenly stop working when a new model comes out.
Jesus, it's not like the iPads you bought suddenly stop working when a new model comes out.
iStudentUK
Apr 11, 06:32 AM
That statement means that 2(12) should be done before the division.
So then the answer is 2.
That's not what his comment said.
So then the answer is 2.
That's not what his comment said.
mashinhead
Aug 11, 03:06 PM
Merom vs. Yonah Benchmarks (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2808)
Cry me a river if you're using Yonah. Unless you need 64-bit or are encoding video/audio 24/7 on your laptop the gains aren't paramount.
interesting article. thanks. I kinda feel better now (just bought a macbook). From what i'm reading you won't be able to take full advantage of the processing power til santa rosa comes out (early 2007). And at that point it will use more power reducing the hight bat. life expectations. And the low voltage chips aren't due out til that time too. So after reading this, i say if you really want a good merom working computer, get one in jan. Or forget the wait and get one now. But sept doesn't look like a good time to buy then.
Cry me a river if you're using Yonah. Unless you need 64-bit or are encoding video/audio 24/7 on your laptop the gains aren't paramount.
interesting article. thanks. I kinda feel better now (just bought a macbook). From what i'm reading you won't be able to take full advantage of the processing power til santa rosa comes out (early 2007). And at that point it will use more power reducing the hight bat. life expectations. And the low voltage chips aren't due out til that time too. So after reading this, i say if you really want a good merom working computer, get one in jan. Or forget the wait and get one now. But sept doesn't look like a good time to buy then.
bassfingers
Mar 30, 01:59 AM
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Thousands of people are dying in Japan and all you idiots care about is iPod Touch batteries? That's kind of... selfish.
Geez thousands of people displaced, and you're still using your own computer? Oh wait, do you or do you not want the world to stop turning?
Thousands of people are dying in Japan and all you idiots care about is iPod Touch batteries? That's kind of... selfish.
Geez thousands of people displaced, and you're still using your own computer? Oh wait, do you or do you not want the world to stop turning?
iScott428
Mar 29, 04:49 PM
Do you two have any hard data to suggest this is actually true in this case? Considering this company is planning to expand to the US and China, what evidence do you have suggest that its dangerous?
I am sure I could find some, but really you do not believe that battery production has some nasty byproducts? For instance it does more environmental damage to make Hybrid car batteries and get them into the vehicle than the car would ever save on energy usage through its life.
I am sure I could find some, but really you do not believe that battery production has some nasty byproducts? For instance it does more environmental damage to make Hybrid car batteries and get them into the vehicle than the car would ever save on energy usage through its life.
Howdr
Apr 5, 02:29 PM
Yes they can. There is no protection under law for making money off the ineptitude of other companies. Apple is entitled, and expected to fix bugs. When those bugs get fixed, an avenue for jail breaking gets closed. Companies that see their revenue stream dry up are just screwed. That's life.
Jail breaking happens because Apple screwed the pooch on security. That's all.
Thats the problem you missed
restraint of trade,
Apple would take Microsoft or any other company to court in o.0005 seconds if restraint of trade was against them.
Jail breaking is ruled legal by the federal government
Cydia and theme it require Jailbreaking to sell the apps they have.
Cydia and theme it are legally selling apps
Apple then goes after Jailbreaking and restrains Cydia and theme it from doing legal trade
This is not a legal act by Apple, so they say its patching for security reasons ( A lie)
You call it security yet the doorway used to jailbreak the Iphone or Ipad has never been used for anything else then Jailbreaking.
Your using an Apple company tactic of telling us its unsafe, you work for apple or believe the unsupported claims by Apple.
Apple believes it looses money from Jailbreaking because these people now buy from other sources than Apple's app store.
I find it sad that so many believe what ever Apple says is the truth.
Apple is a multi billion dollar company that needs to make money all the time off of you. they need your money and undying loyalty. :apple:
( I know people will not agree with my take on this, its fine, I hate big corporations and how they lie to us, look at the Japanese and the lies from the power company, it happens again and again everyday)
Jail breaking happens because Apple screwed the pooch on security. That's all.
Thats the problem you missed
restraint of trade,
Apple would take Microsoft or any other company to court in o.0005 seconds if restraint of trade was against them.
Jail breaking is ruled legal by the federal government
Cydia and theme it require Jailbreaking to sell the apps they have.
Cydia and theme it are legally selling apps
Apple then goes after Jailbreaking and restrains Cydia and theme it from doing legal trade
This is not a legal act by Apple, so they say its patching for security reasons ( A lie)
You call it security yet the doorway used to jailbreak the Iphone or Ipad has never been used for anything else then Jailbreaking.
Your using an Apple company tactic of telling us its unsafe, you work for apple or believe the unsupported claims by Apple.
Apple believes it looses money from Jailbreaking because these people now buy from other sources than Apple's app store.
I find it sad that so many believe what ever Apple says is the truth.
Apple is a multi billion dollar company that needs to make money all the time off of you. they need your money and undying loyalty. :apple:
( I know people will not agree with my take on this, its fine, I hate big corporations and how they lie to us, look at the Japanese and the lies from the power company, it happens again and again everyday)
~Shard~
Aug 11, 12:31 PM
I think he means it's a speed bump in terms of sales. Not technically. Though I may have him/her wrong.
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I could see that being the case now that you mention it.
Most of the "goodness" isn't anything a laptop user will notice.
Quite true. Again, I was speaking from a technical perspective, but practically, yes, this is quite true.
Umm..technically you are right, but the the difference of 5-15% is not very significant, especially compared to Conroe's 40% jump. Merom's power is limited by slower FSB which is not going to see any change anytime soon. I just hope they fix current MBP issues first like battery life, underclocked graphic card and Superdrives. CPU upgrade is just a ritual Apple has to perform to stay in the league.
Gotcha, and agreed - see above. ;) :D
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I could see that being the case now that you mention it.
Most of the "goodness" isn't anything a laptop user will notice.
Quite true. Again, I was speaking from a technical perspective, but practically, yes, this is quite true.
Umm..technically you are right, but the the difference of 5-15% is not very significant, especially compared to Conroe's 40% jump. Merom's power is limited by slower FSB which is not going to see any change anytime soon. I just hope they fix current MBP issues first like battery life, underclocked graphic card and Superdrives. CPU upgrade is just a ritual Apple has to perform to stay in the league.
Gotcha, and agreed - see above. ;) :D
Multimedia
Jul 21, 07:48 PM
up the chips in the MBPs and up the speeds in the MBs?
seems likely to me.Seems highly unlikely to me because above 2GHz, Merom's are way too expensive to go into MacBooks. But I would love to see 2GHz Meroms go into MacBooks sooner than later.
On the MBP front, we should see them go up to 2.16 and 2.33 GHz Meroms very soon.
seems likely to me.Seems highly unlikely to me because above 2GHz, Merom's are way too expensive to go into MacBooks. But I would love to see 2GHz Meroms go into MacBooks sooner than later.
On the MBP front, we should see them go up to 2.16 and 2.33 GHz Meroms very soon.
freebooter
Sep 11, 01:06 AM
Actually, no, I believe it's more along the lines of an example of success breeding lots and lots and lots of admiring / eager people who want to attend their exclusive product showcases, and their resorting to excluding some people to keep such events from turning into crazed circuses.
Besides, I mean, who really wants to go to such an event, anyway? I'd rather just read about it on internet forums like this.
You have a point there. I certainly wouldn't want to attend. But I wasn't saying I would want to. Nor was I saying that any of the eager masses should be able to attend.
The original post by Macrumors implied that this site is shut out of such events. Shutting out representatives sites such as this, which do much to promote Apple products is, I think, to some degree arrogant and perhaps spiteful. This site likes to penetrate Apple's notorious secrecy.
Besides, I mean, who really wants to go to such an event, anyway? I'd rather just read about it on internet forums like this.
You have a point there. I certainly wouldn't want to attend. But I wasn't saying I would want to. Nor was I saying that any of the eager masses should be able to attend.
The original post by Macrumors implied that this site is shut out of such events. Shutting out representatives sites such as this, which do much to promote Apple products is, I think, to some degree arrogant and perhaps spiteful. This site likes to penetrate Apple's notorious secrecy.
BeefUK
Aug 11, 09:05 AM
Why would they give the Macbook that but leave the iMac with the original Core Duo? Doesn't make sense. I would think all three would get it or just the Macbook Pro.
This is probably because merom is aimed at mainly at laptops, however there's no reason by they shouldn't put it in an iMac.
I'm not one to believe all the rumours, however I really hope this one is true. Although i'm not holding my breath.
This is probably because merom is aimed at mainly at laptops, however there's no reason by they shouldn't put it in an iMac.
I'm not one to believe all the rumours, however I really hope this one is true. Although i'm not holding my breath.
lamina
Nov 22, 11:04 AM
If Apple came out with a PDA, I would buy it in a split second. I am in the market for a PDA, but I don't like the feel of the Windows OS or whatever is on them.
I would want it to be slightly wider than the current 5th gen iPod, with the same height, and all virtual controls.
Come to think of it, why not just make a full screen iPod with PDA capabilities, especially bluetooth. Bluetooth wouldn't be too useful for song transfers (isn't it limited to 1 megabit/s?) but for calendar files and contacts, even pictures, it would be perfect.
Ohh Apple please come out with a PDA. I don't even want the cell phone feature.
I would want it to be slightly wider than the current 5th gen iPod, with the same height, and all virtual controls.
Come to think of it, why not just make a full screen iPod with PDA capabilities, especially bluetooth. Bluetooth wouldn't be too useful for song transfers (isn't it limited to 1 megabit/s?) but for calendar files and contacts, even pictures, it would be perfect.
Ohh Apple please come out with a PDA. I don't even want the cell phone feature.
daneoni
Sep 11, 01:00 PM
Ok Ok, I was trying to be sarcastic but it didnt work... More mportantly amazon UK shipping all Macbooks in 1-2 weeks and apple uk shipping in a week....... I sense an update.
...or back to school rush
...or back to school rush
Jape
Dec 21, 11:16 AM
Well looks Like it didn't come again :(
Just confirmed it with BLT, there hasn't been a shipment come in.
Just confirmed it with BLT, there hasn't been a shipment come in.
BruiserBear
Apr 5, 01:31 PM
Jailbreakers are funny.
aswitcher
Sep 11, 01:24 AM
EDIT - And don't say "Common" when you mean "Come on."
I stand corrected - probably should have said 'C'mon'.
If its only downloadable movies I think there will be Nothing for Aus, so I will join you in the 'meh'.
I stand corrected - probably should have said 'C'mon'.
If its only downloadable movies I think there will be Nothing for Aus, so I will join you in the 'meh'.
KnightWRX
Mar 28, 09:51 AM
It would jive with the earlier rumor of a Fall release for iOS 5, and consequently, a Fall release for new iPhone hardware to match. And people, seriously, you can go without a contract for a few months. ;) It doesn't mean because your contract expires in June that you have to renew in June.
So what are thy going to announce?
Let me guess : iOS 5 and Mac OS X Lion. Usually, we get a preview of iOS in april. If we don't this year, this pretty much confirms no iOS 5 in June and probably no hardware to match.
So what are thy going to announce?
Let me guess : iOS 5 and Mac OS X Lion. Usually, we get a preview of iOS in april. If we don't this year, this pretty much confirms no iOS 5 in June and probably no hardware to match.
jrb363
Mar 28, 10:55 AM
So what are thy going to announce? Is hardware now going to the cloud like software? :rolleyes:
LOL! :D I could totally see Steve doing this. ;)
LOL! :D I could totally see Steve doing this. ;)
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